{"id":192994,"date":"2025-12-31T15:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-31T22:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/?p=192994"},"modified":"2025-12-31T16:17:05","modified_gmt":"2025-12-31T23:17:05","slug":"localized-the-apathetics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/music\/interviews\/localized\/localized-the-apathetics\/","title":{"rendered":"Localized: The Apathetics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">2026&#8230; Did you ever think we would make it? Celebrate this historic moment with a fist-pounding show of raw, aggressive rock and a few gut-bursting jokes in between. Kick off the night with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/hangxiety_slc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Hangxiety<\/strong><\/a>, laugh your ass off with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/punksandpunchlines\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Punks &amp; Punchlines<\/strong><\/a> and top it all off moshing to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/theapathetics\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>The Apathetics<\/strong><\/a>! Catch <em>SLUG Localized <\/em>on Thursday, January 22 at <em>Kilby Court<\/em> for a night that\u2019ll make you say, \u201chell yeah!\u201d Get tickets<a href=\"https:\/\/www.24tix.com\/event\/3682943554\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> here<\/a>!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_193165\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-193165\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-193165 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-83-400x267.webp\" alt=\"The Apathetics playing in front of a packed bar.\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-83-400x267.webp 400w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-83-1024x683.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-83-768x512.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-83-1536x1024.webp 1536w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-83-2048x1365.webp 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-193165\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Apathetics have come to rock the house! Photo: John Taylor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">This story begins as any good one does: in a storage unit in Woods Cross, Utah. Guitarist <strong>Josh Leland<\/strong>, alongside his longtime friend and bassist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/scaryuncle_eric_slc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Eric Norris<\/strong><\/a> and drummer <strong>Ben Frank<\/strong>, had been using the spot as a place to practice. Vocalist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/tylerwilliam_\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Tyler William<\/strong><\/a> found his bandmates through an ad posted on Craigslist: \u201cIt was dark, and [I was at the] gated entrance to a storage unit facility\u2026 and I said, \u2018Okay, this is either gonna be really cool, or I\u2019m going to get murdered,\u2019\u201d William recounts. Luckily, it was the former, and thus a punk band was born.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Something that is immediately apparent when listening to The Apathetics play is that this is a band of people who love making music together. \u201cIt\u2019s kind of ironic \u2026 we\u2019re all very empathetic, but \u2018The Empathetics\u2019 wouldn\u2019t sound very punk rock,\u201d Leland says when I ask about the name. In fact, the only thing these guys seem to be apathetic toward is their naming scheme. \u201cComing up with a name is the hardest thing. I\u2019ve [nearly] gotten in fist fights over it [with] other bands. This was one where we were like, \u2018Okay, it\u2019s decent,\u2019\u201d Leland finished.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">When it comes to the type of music that The Apathetics play, even the band itself says it is hard to define. In a previous interview with <em>SLUG<\/em>, Norris describes the genre with a title of his own: \u201csoft punk.\u201d When I ask if this is still the case, William says they\u2019re still very bipolar. \u201cSome of the new songs we\u2019re going to record are definitely on the pop, soft punk side \u2026 there\u2019s still some emo stuff there,\u201d William says. \u201c[It\u2019s] more structured, more developed,\u201d Frank adds. \u201cHalf of them are melodic and poppy \u2026 and half of them are more thrashy, metal stuff.\u201d Leland finishes, \u201cWe know how to bring them together, so it doesn\u2019t sound like two different bands.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-192994 gallery-columns-4 gallery-size-medium'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2150-scaled.webp'><img width=\"267\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2150-267x400.webp\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-193167\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2150-267x400.webp 267w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2150-683x1024.webp 683w, 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class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-scaled.webp'><img width=\"267\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-267x400.webp\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-193168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-267x400.webp 267w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-683x1024.webp 683w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-768x1152.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-1024x1536.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-1365x2048.webp 1365w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2216-scaled.webp 1707w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 267px) 100vw, 267px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-193168'>\n\t\t\t\tDrummer Ben Frank\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-scaled.webp'><img width=\"267\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-267x400.webp\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-193169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-267x400.webp 267w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-683x1024.webp 683w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-768x1152.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-1024x1536.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-1365x2048.webp 1365w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2143-scaled.webp 1707w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 267px) 100vw, 267px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-193169'>\n\t\t\t\tBassist Eric Norris\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-scaled.webp'><img width=\"267\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-267x400.webp\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-193170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-267x400.webp 267w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-683x1024.webp 683w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-768x1152.webp 768w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-1024x1536.webp 1024w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-1365x2048.webp 1365w, https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/John_Taylor_slug_Localized-The_Apathetics_Eric_The_UnitNorris_Tyler_William_Josh_Leland-Ben-Frank-2208-scaled.webp 1707w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 267px) 100vw, 267px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-193170'>\n\t\t\t\tGuitarist Josh Leland\n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">With such a wide range of genres, how can someone tell they\u2019re listening to The Apathetics? \u201c[Frank] is not a punk drummer, and that\u2019s what we love about him,\u201d Norris says, who described his style as a traditional underhand, like a marching band. \u201cHe doesn\u2019t just play that standard punk beat.\u201d \u201cMy goal is to write something that doesn\u2019t sound like anything else,\u201d Leland says. William jokes, \u201cI\u2019m a pussy, I just try to write a good hook.\u201d They attribute it to many things, including a unique drummer and a rhythm section composed of two guitars and a bass, but Norris touts William\u2019s vocal style as one of the iconic facets of the band, \u201clike a combination of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0035626\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Billie Joe Armstrong<\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/timmcilrath\/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Tim McIlrath<\/strong><\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It\u2019s a tale as old as time: Music groups make albums that define generations, and through it all they lose sight of why they began in the first place. Look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/eagles.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Eagles<\/strong><\/a> all taking different tour buses, or <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/artist\/77tT1kLj6mCWtFNqiOmP9H\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Hall &amp; Oates<\/strong><\/a> becoming Hall v. Oates in litigation. The Apathetics were clear with me about their intention of having fun. \u201cWe all get along really well, we all have a lot of fun, we don\u2019t argue, we don\u2019t fight, it\u2019s just a good time,\u201d Leland says. \u201cWe hate ego &#8230; no one in this band has an ego.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">If you\u2019re looking for a band that rocks, check out The Apathetics. See them live at <em>SLUG Localized<\/em>, and you\u2019ll see just what it is that makes this band special.<\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"border: 0; width: 100%; height: 120px;\" src=\"https:\/\/bandcamp.com\/EmbeddedPlayer\/album=3729492603\/size=large\/bgcol=ffffff\/linkcol=0687f5\/tracklist=false\/artwork=small\/transparent=true\/\" seamless=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/theapathetics.bandcamp.com\/album\/last-rites\">Last Rites by The Apathetics<\/a><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more interviews from <em>SLUG Localized:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/music\/interviews\/localized\/stand-up-comedy-localized-2025\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">SLUG Localized: Stand-Up Comedy Showcase 2025<\/a><\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n<em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/music\/interviews\/localized\/localized-seeking-the-sun\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Localized: Seeking the Sun<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kick off the night with Hangxiety, laugh your ass off with Punks &#038; Punchlines and top it all off moshing to The Apathetics! Catch SLUG Localized at Kilby Court. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/music\/interviews\/localized\/localized-the-apathetics\/\" title=\"Localized: The Apathetics\" class=\"read-more\">&hellip;&nbsp;read&nbsp;more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":19,"featured_media":193163,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"episode_type":"","audio_file":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","filesize_raw":"","_expiration-date-status":"","_expiration-date":0,"_expiration-date-type":"","_expiration-date-categories":[],"_expiration-date-options":[],"_wpscppro_dont_share_socialmedia":null,"_wpscppro_custom_social_share_image":0,"_facebook_share_type":"default","_twitter_share_type":"default","_linkedin_share_type":"default","_pinterest_share_type":"default","_linkedin_share_type_page":"","_instagram_share_type":"default","_medium_share_type":"default","_threads_share_type":"default","_google_business_share_type":"default","_selected_social_profile":[],"_wpsp_enable_custom_social_template":false,"_wpsp_social_scheduling":{"enabled":false,"datetime":null,"platforms":[],"status":"template_only","dateOption":"today","timeOption":"now","customDays":"","customHours":"","customDate":"","customTime":"","schedulingType":"absolute"},"_wpsp_active_default_template":true},"categories":[13054,323,355],"tags":[30856,30853,30852,17892,24386,30858,30855,30859,2757,19131,30854,30857],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192994"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/19"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=192994"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192994\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/193163"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=192994"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=192994"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.slugmag.com\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=192994"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}